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  • Matt 5:01 pm on October 12, 2009 Permalink
    Tags: , kickers   

    Are kickers and defenses worth the trouble? 

    I’ve been daydreaming today about suggesting to the keeper league I commish that we just eliminate kickers and defenses altogether next season. There’s very little that’s compelling or interesting about them to me, and winning or losing a match because a defense had a couple of fumble recoveries for touchdowns just feels kind of random and empty. If your QB, RB, WR or TE has a huge game, you’re happy not just because of this week’s win, but also because it’s an indication that you’ve got an explosive player on your roster. If your defense or kicker has a big game – well, that’s great for this week, but there’s little reason to believe it’ll happen on a consistent basis. (More …)

    • Adam 5:56 pm on October 12, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      I definitely see where you’re coming from, especially your point about bye weeks, but I like having Def as part of fantasy football (not so much a kicker). My main reason for playing fantasy is that it makes more NFL games interesting and fun to watch – not just the couple games that affect my NFL team. For me, the Def position in fantasy really does that job better than a TE or 3rd WR or RB. The entire game is important when your defense’s points are on the line. This is kinda true with kickers, but not nearly as much. I could certainly do without a kicker position, but I’d keep the Defense.

    • Ryan 6:13 pm on October 12, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Here’s your solution…IDP! Use IDP’s and you take alot of the luck out of it. Sure there’s still “luck” involved (pick-sixes aren’t exactly consistent) but it takes alot more knowledge and skill to field a solid group of defensive players.

    • Pinwiz 6:23 pm on October 12, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Any league that would get rid of K and DST would be a league I would not play in. Without them, we would be excluding a significant part of the game.

    • Squish 7:19 pm on October 12, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      I’m all for getting rid of kickers. They are shoveled around like a dollar bill and their performance is really only a summation of their team’s performance. Besides nobody likes someone who is rooting for only a kicker in a particular game. It makes you look like a jackass.

      I’d have to disagree with getting rid of defenses. My personal reason is that picking defenses seems to be the one advantage I have over most fantasy owners. Too many people just let one defense sit and play all year. Thus it significantly increases my chances of winning. Secondly, watching a defense you are starting score a TD is one of the single most exciting things in the fantasy world. It’s far better than watching an offensive player score. In addition, adding defenses significantly increases the community’s overall knowledge of football. I now know at least half as many defensive players as I do offensive. I can sit down and talk for hours with someone about their favorite team no matter who their favorite team is.

      So, I do advise the no kicker rule as it is more luck based than skill based. Defenses on the other hand have to stay. To pick a good defense each week you need to know a ton about both the offensive and defensive capabilities of each team involved. There are more variables involved in predicting defensive scoring than any other type in the game. And though you speak of fumble recoveries for TDs and the like as random and unpredictable, I would have to say that 75% of the time I can predict whether a team will have a defensive TD in any given week. I played the 49ers last week, I played the Eagles week 1, I’ve played the Packers when Woodson took it to the house twice. If you pay attention, you can be sure of your decisions well before gametime. In Flea Flicker, 10 of my 11 teams have gotten at least 18% of their scoring from the DST position. If that’s random then I must be real lucky 😉

    • Terry Howard 8:06 am on October 13, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Maybe you should select your kickers a little better. Every year I put a little thought into picking a good kicker whose team puts him into situations to score often. I have Tynes this year and he contributes over 10 points a game nearly every week. I think you honestly just suffer from having poor skill at picking kickers. Sorry but its what it sounds like to me.

      As far as defenses… are you nuts? Football might as well be a gay sport like Soccer if it weren’t for the defensive element of the game. In one of my most favorite leagues we not only dish out points for sacks, INTs, return yards and points, but also dish out hearty penalties to QBs for sacks, as well as IDPs. Seeing your defense or player put a QB in the dirt and chalking up some points for you is probably the most satisfying part of fantasy football for me. I don’t see how you can truly enjoy the game of football and think the defenses should be left out. Might as well play fantasy baseball or something then.

      • Squish 4:09 pm on October 13, 2009 Permalink | Reply

        I’ve also grabbed Tynes in nearly every league. He’s a monster this year! Oh and it’s 11.4 PPG in Flea Flicker Standard…

    • Mads 11:11 am on October 13, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      A backup WR named Miles Austin came out of nowhere this week and decided the outcome of several matches – so, its not just defenses and kickers who have the random element, it is every position.

      That being said, I forgot to exchange my kicker on bye this week, simply because my focus was on all the other “important” players.

      In real life football games can both be won with incredible offenses or amazing defenses – and it should the same in Fantasy Football 🙂

      But, as Ryan mentions – maybe it simply time you changed to IDP?

    • Shirley 2:52 pm on October 13, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      I have the Jets DST right now and the Bengals, Broncos & Saints DST are somehow on the waiver wire. I’m tempted to drop the Jets for the Saints (or perhaps Bengals), especially after the last two games. What do you think?

      • Brandon 3:00 pm on October 13, 2009 Permalink | Reply

        With all of those teams available on the waiver wire, it seems that most people aren’t paying attention very much to the position. With that in mind, it might make sense to just pick up and drop your defense each week depending on the matchup. With the Jets playing the Bills this coming weekend, it’s probably best to stick with them.

    • Shirley 3:06 pm on October 13, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      True. Thanks again, Brandon!

    • Matt 4:17 pm on October 13, 2009 Permalink | Reply

      Had a feeling this one would get some reaction. 🙂

      You all make some good points, and I do feel far less strongly about ditching defenses than I do kickers. I guess it boils down to what you enjoy most about fantasy football.

      IDP might be something I’ll have to try next year.

  • Brandon 9:43 am on August 7, 2009 Permalink
    Tags: , , jason elam, kickers, mason crosby, , , , rob bironas, robbie gould, ,   

    Kicker rankings for 2009 

    Unless you feel you absolutely need a top ranked kicker, you should probably wait until one of the last couple rounds of your draft and take the best guy available. It’s usually easier to play the waiver wire from week-to-week to fill your kicker spot on your roster anyways, depending on the match-ups and weather report. Either way though, here’s the list. Make sure to check out our other cheat sheets here.

    1. Ryan Longwell, MIN – The Vikings will get into enemy territory a lot on the back of Adrian Peterson, but if Purple Jesus can’t punch it in, Longwell will be there to clean up the mess.
    2. David Akers, PHI
    3. Stephen Gostkowski, NE – He was the top kicker last year, but with Brady back, I envision more PAT’s and less FG’s.
    4. Jason Elam, ATL
    5. Nate Kaeding, SD
    6. Robbie Gould, CHI – Cutler should get them into field goal range more often than Orton did.
    7. Mason Crosby, GB
    8. Rob Bironas, TEN
    9. Nick Folk, DAL
    10. Rian Lindell, BUF – Hopefully the addition of T.O. will mean more trips into the red-zone and more opportunities for Lindell.
    11. (More …)

  • Brandon 10:16 pm on July 10, 2008 Permalink
    Tags: gostkowski, kickers, , Vinatieri   

    2008 Kicker Power Rankings 

    Power rankings for other positions

    Here are the rankings for kickers going into the 2008 season. To be honest, don’t expect me to update or change this list very much between now and the beginning of the season. I just don’t care that much about kickers, and neither should you. In standard scoring leagues last season, the difference between the top kicker (Mason Crosby) and the fifteenth ranked kicker (Neil Rackers) was only 35 points, which comes out to a little over 2 points a game. I don’t know about you, but there weren’t that many games in my fantasy team’s season that were determined by 2 points or less. (More …)

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